Per Hank Pym the events of SW2. The pre-retcon beyonder is aware of the writer/publishers and can threatening them so that possibly plot resistance. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. No Prep. They literally referenced him and said that he was just a child. Followers. Pre Retcon Beyonder is more insane than his diet coke race counterparts Hickman used(yes they predate Hickman as Kubik in that FF4 comic shows, I know). If not, Team 2 with some trouble, since PRB<HOTU. He'd beat composite Superman, let alone this robot. Galactus is fodder here. Second, Beyonder would stop Mxy from going out of the comic, trapping him in the Beyond-Realm (himself). R1: Pre-Retcon Beyonder Takes Low-Mid Difficulty. Pre Retcon Beyonder is more a match for things like SCP 239. Beyonder uses his prep to observe Doom preparing,. If the individual, then pre-retcon Beyonder wins hands down. Thanks!!!!!In fact, Pre-Retcon Beyonder had a completely different origin than being a child unit. • 1 year ago. MJJ's powers keep increasing exponentialy. 14 years ago. Victini could arguably do it if you allow Pokedex entries. Also, I should mention that they are probably re-retconning him to his previous levels soon. Beyonder was an alien entity from Marvel comics who was a multiversal threat and a hero. He is a cosmic cube which is an Omni-dimensional object that can expand infinitely but that is only a limited part of him because he limits himself. Both are Omnipotent Supreme Beings but PRB was God to something larger than. Living tribunal. Divine mystical enhancements granting near omnipotent abilities. deactivated-5b3daad020468. Pretty sure it wasnt stated to end so. Battle for the title of 2nd strongest Marvel Character. Beyonder, Pre-Retcon or Post-Retcon with minimum effort. Pre retcon MM scared the cosmics of the 80s even as groups, they had to just let him pass by out of fear, even beg him to fight Beyonder due to how scared shitless they were of both. 5 years ago. Pre Retcon Beyonder is TOAA of a world much much larger than Marvel Multiverse. Pre recon beyonder is not omnipotent, but nigh-omnipotent as there is only 1 omnipotent character in omniverse and in marvel it is the One Above All not Beyonder. He represented everything outside the Marvel Universe, while TOAA represents MU. The. His powers exceeded that of even abstract entities present in infinite realms, coupled with the LT who holds authority over said entities to the point where their powers are a drop in the ocean to him. Follow 1712. Beyonder is an Infinitely Geometrically Dimensional Multiverse that is more powerful than a Geometrically Dimensional Multiverse. ) along with the Great Houses of Gallifrey (A. Kingant27. A. @slacker the hacker said: "@Mackeja said: "Pre-retcon spite. @whydama: well beyonder was stated to be millions of times more powerful than all the. BEYONDERS In fact, Pre-Retcon Beyonder had a completely different origin than being a child unit. 7. This fight takes place in a neutral space and either party wants to kill the other. 3. In The Complete Secret Wars #3, Pre-Retcon Beyonder opined that Stephan Strange is stronger than any in the multiverse suspect and had the opportunity to seal him in a pocket dimension ridding the multiverse of him forever. "Now now thats not true. LT has no jurisdiction over Phoenix which is why he. After that he was retconned to a far less powerful cosmic cube. PR Beyonder is a casual multiverse buster. The only other non-Omnipotent characters in Marvel who might even rival a bloodlusted pre-Retcon Beyonder for one are the Infinite Infinites and Divine Creator VIA narrative wanking. This is a spite thread then . If this is pre retcon then beyonder. The only thing the Beyonder wasn’t able to do was truly understand what it was like to not be the Beyonder. Tdk banished the Great Darkness from Barbatos, and took over the Dark multiverse, Barbatos is just a small avatar of the Great Darkness. Pre-Retcon Beyonder, represented by Amendment50 Elder God Demonbane, represented by God_Vulcan PLEASE VOTE FOR WHOEVER YOU THINK DEBATED THE BEST, NOT WHICH CHARACTER. HOM wanda. R1: Everyone of the verses is at their peak. The same exact way Presence is the Supreme Being of the DC Multiverse. At that time, The Beyonder was more powerful than the Living Tribunal and thus everything else in the Marvel Universe. User Lists: 0We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Death from what I remember had no power of Lucifer, only Destiny did - so I think it's safe to assume she scales below him. The Beyonder doesn’t know what the abstracts will say. Pre-Retcon Beyonder/Classic Beyonder-As a result of being the entirety of a dimension of far more scope than our own multiverse, he was more powerful than all of the rest of reality (he was. Dream of the Endless unable to stop Barbatos, who like Mxyzptlk, will steamroll Beyonder and Molecule Man without even trying. In Lucifer DC Multiverse is not just infinite dimensional but also existing in multiple existence as seen in his conversation with Presence. #8. Clearly neither is the GEB - but in the sense prior to the retcons he was a character whose will defined reality around him and he was infinitely more powerful than anyone else on. So, I looked at The Beyonder's (Pre-Retcon)profile and, found out that he is rated Tier High 1-B and likely, 1-A. The Beyonder realm might be a million times bigger than the entire Marvel Multiverse combined but in the end it's still part of the larger multiverse. His accident poked a pinhole into the universe of a child Beyonder, and the energy from that universe empowered him. Lucifer is a different beast. Don't think God Thing's H4X compares. . Post Retcon the Beyonder was part cosmic cube along with Owen. pre retcon molecule man vs. Pre-Retcon Beyonder was Omnipotent! The comics said so. #44 Edited By Debunker020202. #2 deactivated-629d3023b5b49. He was the TOAA of his own multiverse, separate to that of the Marvel multiverse, before he came across the. let's wait and see his actual feats. Post-retcon is still strong, there’s no doubt about that, but he’s still much much weaker than his Pre-retcon counterpart:. Reviews: 0. Forums Battles Darkseid (True Form) vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder 121 results 1 2 3 #1 Soratoumiga 4 years ago #2 ProfessorRespect Beyonder. #. Doctor strange opens one in front and back. Franklin Richards(full control of his powers) All the celestials. For reference Pre-Retcon Beyonder is stronger than the Infinity Gauntlet by leaps and bounds but a Cosmic Cube is stated and shown to be vastly inferior to the Infinity Gauntlet. Pre Retcon Beyonder gets wrecked hard lol. The living embodiment of The Beyond Realm, a reality outside of the Marvel multiverse, he utilizes his powers over reality, space, and time to observe the neverending battle between good and evil, serving as both an ally and enemy to Earth’s. Forum Posts. Abraxas, the personification of the destruction of the multiverse, is likely somewhere around here, although since he only appeared in a few issues of Fantastic Four as far as I know, it's hard to tell. That was the whole point of "Secret Wars II. Both Beyonder (assuming this is him outside his personal realm) and the Presence, since both are like Low 1-B, this could go either way. The All-Mighty (SCP) vs TOAA, Pre-Retcon Beyonder, and Oblivion (Marvel) All of them at their strongest. And the SCP verse is on par with the Dark Tower when it comes to sheer size and scale. Cubey. Then the pre retcon beyonder attacks himself. Beyonder preretcon upgrade to 1A. Pre-Retcon beyonder could be said to be the "God before genesis" he was God before TOAA existed in the comics at that time, and when TOAA came into existence as an omnipotent character they had to greatly reduce the power of the Beyonder, from there they began to know him as "Post-retcon beyonder". 1 year ago. He has no concept of death he's toyed with the entire celestials even living tribunal was wetting himself. Beyonder - vs - Beyonder # 21 K. God Emperor Doom has no feats that matter at this level, Pre-retcon Beyonder turns him into a toilet. They start 20 feet away from each other. #1. ago. Location: Above Earth. Biography: The man, the myth, the legend. panos2000000 • 1 yr. Originally posted by the DarkoneBefore they were retconned, Beyonder and Molecule Man we nearly omnipotent. . Beyonder 39%. Jackalinthebox said: I thought pre-retcon Beyonder was closer in power to Lucifer & Michael, rather than the Presence. Pre- Retcon Beyonder would not be that much powerful if he came now. DONATE TO SUPPORT THE CHANNEL! Put a message with your donation so I know your request if your donation is for a request tier. Follow 12318. I am unsure post-retcon Beyonder would even beat that version of her, which was a far. A Beyonder easily ripping off Thor's arm. . All indications are that. A. THe nature and effects of the Retcon are irrelevant. Thanos w IG and heart of the universePre-Retcon Beyonder is infinitely more powerful than anyone not omnipotent. FollowRound 5: Pre-Retcon Molecule Man vs God Emperor Doom Round 6:Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs God Emperor Doom Bonus Round: Protege vs God Emperor Doom This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A GregLeagueGamingAlt •. No one. He was the TOAA of his own multiverse, separate to that of the Marvel multiverse, before he came across the. Wiki Points. PR Beyonder takes it 10/10. The thought of Beyonder defeating SCP 3812 because he was able to destroy a billion universes is laughable. (Please add any important quotations that may be missing, ensuring to cite the original source. Pre Retcon Beyonder said that the combined powers of all the beings in the multiverse (including entities) where just like a drop in the sea and is considered to be a million times powerful than. Though with infinite power he is far more concerned about his place in life after being the all and everything within his realm he tries to understand the concepts of Life, Death, and Desire all things that he want experience. Round 1: All-Mighty vs True Form Oblivion. 9 K. But seeing hat The Pre Retcon Beyonder was basically on the Living Tribunal's level. Any of the Smash gods could do it, and so would the beings above. #5. Beyonder was the sum power of a multiverse, which still resides within a greater omniverse that Wanda's spell began to collapse . Aetherius is a larger infinity than Oblivio and encompasses its entirety, existing as a static realm of pure Anuic Light where all things exist in pure, timeless harmony. Originally posted by the Darkone Spectre at full powered is above the pre-recon beyonder, Spectre is powered by God, I'm sorry that's one Ace even the pre-recon Beyonder can't overcome. #38 JayBlack. But Lucifer. 4 years ago. Protege and Pre-Retcon Beyonder 49%. Many People are Underestimating Pre Retcon Beyonder in The Comments but they are forgetting some thing. Goku is low outer at best and byonder is easily outerversal. Beyonder won't evenn make any difference more than the ant. Has no equal or superior, Created Heaven’s (which could be a Universe) with a word and is just flat out stated to be omnipotent with. Aka via ap advantage Oblivion alone has Infinite Spatial Dimensions and is described as a realm which contains all Change and Variation within it. Pre-recton Beyonder, was the sum of everything. 0. He was like the 2nd strongest guy in Marvel, only underneath the One Above All. Whereas Spawn is equal to Spectre in terms of. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is honestly far less impressive than Molecule man, at least current molecule man. no one can tell, if he was less powerful than TOAA or equal, PR Beyonder was stated by Stan lee to be omnipotent, but the meaning of omnipotent is debatable. In Lucifer DC Multiverse is not just infinite dimensional but also existing in multiple existence as seen in his conversation with Presence. Adptive armor isnt doing a thing for him here just as much as it helped against. Pre Retcon Beyonder wins with ease! He is literally beyond everyone and everything (ofc not TOAA) and a multiversal threat. Then there is Inhuman/Mutant beyonder who had nothing to do with The beyonders. Who is a better god like figure?Both Beyonders wins. Motivation: Both want to kill each other. He may have to resort to starving them out by erasing humanity though. The beyonder can warp reality and time as well as creating a real life setting. If you can think about beating TOAA, Beyonder can do that. Originally Beyonder was a mysterious cosmic entity from outside the multiverse who was more powerful than Galactus, The Celestials, and the entire Cosmic Compass. Pre retcon Beyonder & MM > Lucifer Morningstar > The Endless. While pre retcon beyonder almost gets argued for a lose against toaa after a hard fought battle! So i think pre retcon beyonder = the presence. Mephisto said that The Beyonder could make idlest imaginings a reality with a wave of his hand, turning all of existence inside out), Vibration Manipulation (Created. Definitely Beyonder. The people at Marvel Comics figured it was a dumb idea, so they changed (or retconned) it. CCC Gilgamesh vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright. He toke on beyonder and was stated to be LT's superior MM did say that he had become a component of great power, but not quite up. 3. OPM can't even defeat Post-retcon Beyonder, let alone Pre-retcon. Thanos wins this. Pages with a quote from this character will automatically be added here along with the quote. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is probably here as well. Jmarshmallow. Hell even Strange Visitor Superman with scaling off of Mxy could take Pre-Retcon Beyonder. I can only speak of Pre-Retcon Beyonder since that is who I am familiar with, but pre-Retcon Beyonder was explicitly a being outside of the Marvel totality. Reply. Kuuko273. SCP-682 (SCP Foundation) vs Beyonder (Pre Retcon) Fight ends only in Death. Because PR Beyonder mentioned how he wants her to return what’s rightfully his, which one of things I’m assuming that could be is a portion of his power he lent or something like that. Nope. In no way, shape, or form you can scale to the whole thing. Share to. Now I made a lengthy blog detailing the powers of the Beyonder, Post-Retcon. 1 year ago. Pre retcon beyonder was more of a plot device than a character lol. It is capable of becoming a Multiversal threat, but it's vastly weaker than any of the Apollyon-Class SCPs. The Beyonder was also stated to be "Beyond the Marvel Multiverse/Omniverse" which means that, he was beyond "Infinite-Dimensions" or "Trans-Infinity". Prepare for. Beyonder can destroy the concept of death to the point that above Infinite-D beings like Molecule Man couldn't kill a freaking flower and can restore it while being power depleted with just a. Beyonder pre-retcon Beyonder > current beyonders races. If PR Beyonder is superior to TOAA then God Emperor. Pre-Retcon beyonder could be said to be the "God before genesis" he was God before TOAA existed in the comics at that time, and when TOAA came into existence as an omnipotent character they had to greatly reduce the power of the Beyonder, from there they began to know him as "Post-retcon beyonder". #20. PR Beyonder is probably the strongest comic character there is if you go by feats alone and not by hype. . Beyonder if what I hear of Gan/Crimson King is true (and. @The Mjolnir Wielder: Doubt it, Beyonder has a weak will and can easily be manipulated. Anti-Monitor's probably on the scale of pre-retcon Molecule Man, a foe that Beyonder was able to beat. Pre-Retcon Beyonder ruins them casually. Batman gets as much prep time as he wants. She easily could hold an infinite-D multiverse in her hand, while Beyonder's best feat was to shake an infinite-D. Even if Thanos had 100 years prep and had the IG, PR Beyonder erases him from existence with his hand. Pre recton beyonder is one of the most over wanked marvel characters . PR Beyonder is way beyond than Thanos with IG. Protege was getting the upper hand on Beyonder rather quicky b4 LT inturrupted their fight, i say Protege ". 7 K. The Beyonder is a cosmic entity of immense power. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Some stuff from DC like Lucifer Morningstar. #1 Edited By LightningGod67. And he has just way more hax and reality manipulation against the mostly physical Goku to handle! 11. . Wiki Points. Join this channel to get access to perks:…The Beyonder was an impossibly powerful being who held the Secret Wars, essentially kidnapping a whole bunch of heroes and villains and making them fight for his. Pre Retcon Beyonder is far far beyond any of his other forms. Assuming the several dimensions to be universes isn't something streched considering the PRB power. They live here, and decided to fuck shit up. ago. Not only this, due to scaling, Hajun has taken. 4 years ago. Bloodlusted. They both basically live outside of the multiverses that they are part of. reality equals his thoughts. The Classic Beyonder would be able to take Anti Monitor at full power out. 4 years ago. Pre retcon beyonder was the closest to TOAA I think any being has come to. Pre-Retcon Beyonders was described to be like a child compared to the Beyonders we are seeing now. Now just imagine 10,000 of them vs 10,000 Celestials. You can also upload and share your favorite Beyonder wallpapers. Round 3: CAS and Myx vs PR Beyonder and Living Tribunal. Beyonder's best feats consist of warping reality on a Multiversal scale in his fight with MM, and being millions of times stronger than anyone in the marvel multiverse, but that's only impressive up to a certain point before it becomes. The Beyonder at his full power pre-retcon is omnipotent. Because there is no "pre-retcon" Beyonder in Marvel canon -- that is nothing more than a made-up battleboard term. The Living Tribunal was able to stop the Infinity Gaunlet from working, while PR Molecule Man stated to be stronger than all other beings in the Multiverse, Including Abstracts, and the Living Tribunal . • 1 year ago. But i think they have more "battle feats" (killed LT, killed millions/billions/or much more than that, of celestials (since they killed all of then from all multiverse). Post-Retcon Molecule Man. Do not make any Thanos with HOTU vs threads. Marvel's Multiverse was not using Type III Multiversal Expansion. Beyonder Pré-Retcon foi uma das Entidades mais poderosas da #Marvel, ficando até mesmo acima do Tribunal Vivo, ele é bem conhecido por ter criado a Saga Guer. The Beyonder is a recurring antagonist of Avengers Assemble. Many People are Underestimating Pre Retcon Beyonder in The Comments but they are forgetting some thing. Beyonder even realized he was the Pre-Retcon one too lol Not to mention Beyonder detailing Doc Strange's win con over him, tailor made for Loki and proven when he and Sylvie enchanted Alioth, who. bigbran. PR Beyonder tanked a blast that would of shattered billions of dimensions and he was bullying PR MM who repaired the multiverse with a gesture. Mephisto said that The Beyonder could make idlest imaginings a reality with a wave of his hand, turning all of existence inside out), Vibration Manipulation (Created an earthquake throughout the city), Attack Reflection (Deflected Magneto's power beam towards the X-Men), Magnetism Manipulation (Repelled Magneto by duplicating his own magnetic. Beyonder explicitly said "everything you can dream about, I can do", and it is confirmed by few characters present there. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder is literally millions of times more powerful than the Marvel creation which contains infinite multiverses upon infinite multiverses upon infinite multiverses and so on into infinity. Composite-DC/Vertigo's Infinite Hierarchy is far. Learn the difference between the original, toned-down, and evolved versions of the Beyonder, a cosmic entity that can create and destroy reality, in Marvel Comics. the beyonder is literally the embodiment of a universe which dwarfs the mainstream multiverse, so he can do the same thing for the multiverse, but not all of marvel (since marvel is an omniverse. R1: Lucifer wins Mid-difficulty R2: Pre-recton beyonders wins high difficulty. High-End Composite Time Lords and High-End Interpretation Downstreamers 3. The Beyonder, a young member of an ancient race known as the Beyonders, was made aware of the Marvel Universe due to an 'accident' orchestrated by the other Beyonders involving Owen Reece. If he can beat beyonder, he wins 10/10 because he would know the correct path in every timeline, which he exists in, because he is omnipresent. TOAA is God of Marvel while PR Beyonder is a much bigger god. " Uhhh, yes it does. Death only dealt with Dream so casually because of how the concepts they embody interact with each other. 8. Once a lowly lab technician desperate for recognition, Owen Reece miraculously became one of the most powerful beings in existence, the Molecule Man, while fixing an atomic device. Doomslayer can beat 69420 trillion Master Chiefs and has literally indestructible armor he stomps. post retcon toaa: his power can only work on a multiverse that is stable. PR Beyonder is millions of times stronger than the Marvel multiverse. ago. Wiki Points. She/Her. Round 3: CAS and Myx vs PR Beyonder and Living Tribunal. Poll Current Lucifer Morningstar vs. . He was the TOAA of his own multiverse. Maybe I have used faulty logic regarding this. Post-Retcon Beyonder: A cosmic cube being that had split in half, the other side being Molecule Man. Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs. No prep and no knowledge. Beyonder still probably loses to Thought Robot Superman, Final Batsuit Batman, Anti-Crisis Wonder Woman, Lucifer Morningstar and Michael Demiurgos, Perpetua, the Darkest Knight, true form Darkseid,. The only other non-Omnipotent characters in Marvel who might even rival a bloodlusted pre-Retcon Beyonder for one are the Infinite Infinites and Divine Creator VIA narrative wanking. Imagion all he powers in the Marvel Multiverse (which is infinite), not just the Multiverse but also every being in it, and emptyness (which is also infinite) beyond it (blank pages) Even Stan Lee stated in an interview in the 80s, that Beyonder was supose to represent the power the writers had. Battles. 4 years ago #3. R1: Lucifer wins Mid-difficulty R2: Pre-recton beyonders wins high difficulty. He has way better feats, unless you can provide me a showing for Reinhard superior to being beyond comprehension of Pre-Retcon MM, as well as being above all of Marvel. Neutral. He's was designed by Jim Shooter to be a catch-all explanation for the existence of all the other fiction. This is pre-retcon Beyonder. Preretcon Beyonder wins. The omnipotent Beyonder is on a destructive rampage and has decided to destroy the entire Marvel omniverse. Adviser (Vs)Pre- Retcon Beyonder would not be that much powerful if he came now. However PR Beyonder has more power than basically all of existence and attacks that destroyed multiverses were nothing to. Both sides are in character but determined to win. pre retcon beyonder: can destroy an infinite-d multiverse and exists independently of it. Thanos wins this. When The Pre-Retcon Molecule Man(with the Infinite portion of The Beyonder's Powers)fought The Beyonder, they were stated to be "2 of the mightiest being in ALL Existence(or, All-Fiction)". Beyonder's best feats consist of warping reality on a Multiversal scale in his fight with MM, and being millions of times stronger than anyone in the marvel multiverse, but that's only impressive up to a certain point before it becomes. 4 years ago. The Soruce(DC) 5. Round 4: All-Mighty vs The three of them. Within the beyond realm, he's supposed to be omnipresent. Post-retcon: The planet or localized area of space is his plaything. Pre-retcon molecule man is the most powerful version of recce. Even though most of Beyonder's feats in SW are still canon, Doom's statement could have *only* been in reference to POST-retcon (ie. Pre retcon beyonder was stronger than all of marvel multiverse combined with exception of TOAA. Beyonder was everything outisde the Multi-verse. So the information given is contradictory as a Cosmic Cube can't do what the Beyonder did but he canonically does those things. Reason? Preretcon beyonder can stand against TOAA and LT. The Scarlet King scales above Aleph 2 and 3 which Marvel doesn't reach that level. so i think the only characters that can beat him are tier 0 characters like boundless. Some overkill ones would be The Brothers Death (apart from maybe small death), Scarlet King, etc. the_doctor. Motivation: ROB Fight in ROBverse. GEB=Anti Pressence. From incredibly superficial research, it's the whole "Shadow/Dark Reflection of God" thing that has been knocking around in DC since the old Swamp Thing days. 2. SCP-682's adaptive powers are seriously NLF-prone. 548. Dreamxd26. Followers. He was basically like if God tried to create a champion capable of doing just about everything that. VS. 4 years ago. 0. Archie sonic defeated someone who could destroy millions of MULTI-VERSE zones. No, he is likely Presence level. -Protege copied Beyonder powers. In Immortal Hulk#50 TOAA said he becomes TOBA when he has to do. For reference Pre-Retcon Beyonder is stronger than the Infinity Gauntlet by leaps and bounds but a Cosmic Cube is stated and shown to be vastly inferior to the Infinity Gauntlet. Pre-Retcon Beyonder (33 votes) Lucifer 61%. Nothing's ever more ridiculous than claiming a guy who got extremely tired just from erasing Death from the multiverse, jobs like fucking crazy during Secret Wars II and lost a serious fight to Rachel Summers (which everyone seems to. Jump Force Goku view all Shonen as fiction how will Pre Retcon Beyonder will win. About Pre-retcon/Classic Beyonder. #1 Thanatic. Sorry this is turning into a minor RT haha,. Fight takes place in an infinite dimension. Learn the difference between the original, toned-down, and evolved versions of the Beyonder, a cosmic entity that can create and. Forum Posts. . #1 Edited By gokupwnzalllol. It took 3 of the Beyonders to take down the same LT. DONATE TO SUPPORT THE CHANNEL! Put a message with your donation so I know your request if your donation is for a request tier. I would take the race of the Beyonders against the race. People already think Pre-Retcon Beyonder is around the One Above All (directly below, equal, or above), so this new big bad is gonna be busted in a confusing way, since a fraction of his is power. @Metalslash said: MJJ wins. The Beyonder is a cosmic entity of immense power. 5 years ago Galactic_1000Every single universe in the entirety of the Marvel multiverse combined is literally a drop in the ocean to Pre-Retcon Beyonder's power, The minotors exist in a dimension called "The Bleed", which is basically identical to Marvels "The Beyond". Cosmic armor supes needs a downgrade soon. Wiki Points. g. Follow 2882. The rest of the rounds Marvel is pretty dominant, maybe they could do something in the final round. BEYONDERSIn fact, Pre-Retcon Beyonder had a completely different origin than being a child unit. 1. That makes me believe that Beyonder may not be all that he is made out to be. Well pre-retcon beyonder was able to erase marvels death. Thanks!!!!!fact, Pre-Retcon Beyonder had a completely different origin than being a child unit. Round 3: All-Mighty vs TOAA. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. @dami24434: cosmology expansion. She inherited the Demiurgic power through her father and with Lucifer's guidance, she molded and created her own universe, and that was a vastly weaker and earlier version. Still Pre-Retcon Beyonder. With this skill (plot manipulation), still can affect Pr beyonder. The Beyonder is millions of times more powerful than the combined power in the multiverse which includes the Living Tribunal - Scan 1. Spectre is tapped into God so he has an unlimited amount of power at his disposal. R2: God stomps.